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Talin 5/28/2018 4:19 AM

:P

fine let me play this game in #lounge

it is SG right, and not 5g? my eyes are kinda bad

Yeah SG. I abbreviate Cat_Shadow Griffin so it doesn't take up too much space

Wait... if someone is stuck on a deserted island or something, and they have a tulpa, would they NOT go crazy from loneliness?

6:09 AM

Can tulpa alone fill the human interaction void?

it is generally said that tulpas are not a substitute for human interaction

6:11 AM

but possibly

ok

the threshold for going crazy is different for different individuals, some people might even manage to remain sane under those conditions without having any tulpas

Ill go with, better then nothing, but still not great.

You'd probably end up blurring reality with your headspace.

^ that’s what I would imagine too

7:52 AM

Especially since it’d be just them and their tulpa

just imagine what the people that found the island and the person later would say when they saw the stranded person dancing with a tulpa (that they cannot see) around a campfire

7:55 AM

in that case people would probably call the stranded system crazy

7:55 AM

then again I do not know how "crazy" is defined in this question

I dance with my tulpas on nearby football and basketball fields anyway...

8:26 AM

get fucked

anyone have experiences microdosing psychs with tulpas

You rang?

10:30 PM

We've tried it but we may have not really gotten the dosages right. I got a bit more emotional and paranoid while microdosing.

lsd or mush

10:30 PM

i heard lsd kills tulpas

10:30 PM

i'm really curious as to whether thats possible and how that works, i wouldnt know myself

ALD-52, essentially LSD.

10:31 PM

I'm not sure if it actually kills tulpas, but I feel like it would be detrimental toward initial forcing.

10:34 PM

I'm a tulpa and the first time we dropped a tab was a little over half a year ago. I was fine and having a fun time on my own. It got a bit hard for my host to focus on me and hear me at times, though.

10:34 PM

Where did you hear that Lucy kills tulpas, if you don't mind me asking?

ohh

10:36 PM

right here

10:37 PM

i want to know how that's possible if it is

10:37 PM

also, i'm skeptical about other drugs being detrimental on such a large scale if you want to know my stance

10:37 PM

someone else was scared of mushies as a result of hearing that

I'm interesting in knowing that as well. Perhaps something can go wrong during a bad trip, sure, though it's difficult to undo neural connections. It's always best to hear this sort of stuff from other tulpamancers/tulpas who've actually taken that instead of people who are still hanging out with Scruff McGruff. What's your stance on other drugs? Which ones are on your mind?

yeahhh it seems so weird

10:41 PM

but i guess if you have a profound experience you might be distracted from forcing

10:41 PM

but wouldnt it have similar effects on memories or did potentially if that was the case?

10:41 PM

im ok with drugs that arent addictive or harmful long term :p

10:42 PM

i know some antipsychotics nurture development of synapses or connections or smth

I'm with you on drugs that aren't addictive. I feel like forcing while on that stuff would be nearly impossible as your mind will always wander around. Maybe it would have an effect on memories, but I'm not sure if it would have a major impact on it. Temporary memory loss, sure. Those antipsychotics could be an interesting step toward tulpa experimentation.

10:44 PM

Take your tulpa pills, folks.

haha

Generally speaking, don't mess with drugs that mess with dopamine.

10:48 PM

That said, drugs such as marijuana or alcohol don't tend to have a lasting effect on tulpas to my knowledge.

10:48 PM

Skye does plan to try a psychedelic at some point, and I plan to be active during this time.

Good luck, it's hard.

Hah.

I have done

11:18 PM

Many psychedelics.

11:19 PM

I have done a dose and some change of liquid LSD, and I've taken just under the amount of dmt necessary for me to have blasted off, but by far I have more experience with mushrooms.

11:19 PM

Having topped out at a 16g dose, a low of .5g, and most every dose in-between .5g and 8g

11:21 PM

I have also taken a point of pure mdma, which is not a psychedelic but might as well be the pseudo psychedelic of the upper family.

11:21 PM

My tulpas are all safe.

11:23 PM

Interacting with them on anything under 1g-2g of shrooms was fine if a bit weird. It's easy to confuse what is and isn't your tulpa, but it's also not hard to reconnect and figure it all out.

11:24 PM

Anything stronger than that, so everything that isn't weed or shrooms of those low doses, makes it difficult for me to focus on tulpa stuff.

11:24 PM

Lsd because everything in the world is so much more pressing, from the one time I took it.

11:24 PM

Dmt because it's so short and odd and strange.

11:25 PM

High doses of shrooms because more shrooms means more confusion and breaks in continuity of thought.

cool info!

11:25 PM

good to hear they are safe

I doubt they could've been harmed tbh.

11:27 PM

I have had a few bad trips and my tulpas have always been so far from the forefront of my mind that they didn't experience much of the negative effects.

Hm. Interesting.

welp am doin some science rn

The science I'm thinking of?

Drugs, the final frontier.

Nice.

Does your tulpa like to be pet?

Mine prefers the fingers-through-hair method

Some of my tulpas like affection.

5:44 AM

They all receive it from me.

5:44 AM

Ulysses and Arty are both particularly thorny individuals.

Uhh, it's variable. Petting is not a positive endeavor on a literal level, but in a sense it could be acceptable as a means to communicate affection.

Feels.... very anime to me.

how much parroting did yall do

For me, it's impossible really to say. Depending on how parroting is defined, my host and i must be parrots controlled by some abstract central entity that knows how certain personalities should act in certain situations, or perhaps I was never parroted at all as parroting would require my host to somehow create my own behavior and reactions through his own will and then ascribe the results or consequences or at least some measure of responsibility to me while the true me isn't actually responsible at all.

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Parroting is a do or don't sort of thing. Most say that you'll get results faster if you do, but then you'll be unable to tell whether your tup is talking or if you're parroting. A person on a different server has given this the term "parrotnia"

I don't think you'll get results faster

4:00 PM

people parrot characters all the time

4:00 PM

how often do those become sentient

This is a good thread on "parrotnoia", and one of the first uses of the term. https://community.tulpa.info/thread-sentience-tips-for-those-who-are-getting-parrotnoid

Tips for those who are getting "parrotnoid".

By parrotnoid, I mean thinking that you're parroting your tulpa when you're actually not, and that nerve-wracking feeling you get when your tulpa's reply feels like you created it a split second befor

almost never

Please don't parrot.

4:01 PM

It is possible to get faster results, and also possible to not tell the difference between genuine responses and your own parroting - or, worse, you simply won't develop them in the first place due to making a character you roleplay instead.

4:02 PM

The goal of making a tulpa isn't speed - it is success.

According to a few people, parroting has been beneficial in helping their tulpas speak, by forcing them to sound out syllables, but I personally wouldn't recommend it due to the confusion it causes. This isn't to say that I have any experience with it, of course.

If you are going to parrot as a speech aid, I would recommend taking it slow, doing it minimally, and making it very clear when you have started and when you are stopping parroting.

4:03 PM

Again, accuracy is more important than speed.

I parroted a bunch and it wasn't that bad. However, I don't recommend parroting. I don't recommend not parroting either, though

I think tulpas can learn to speak perfectly fine without it

4:07 PM

it's placebo, more or less

Hah. Some people have success with it - I simply don't recommend it because the possible speed isn't worth the likely risk.

4:09 PM

I do know people that have had faster results... As well as people that ended up with serious problems instead, requiring more work down the line or simply people who gave up entirely.

It probably is placebo, considering that most people couldn't tell whether they were parroting or not

Ah. I am referring more specifically to deliberately saying things and pretending it is your tulpa.

4:15 PM

Speaking "for them", essentially.